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Christine
One thing I’m super grateful for: it’s pretty easy and cheap to go home to California from Australia since they all route via LAX. Can’t imagine having to home to the whole other side of the country! Haven’t dealt with the taxes thing yet…not looking forward to sorting that sitch out soon. Good round-up of the cons of Australia–but all illustrated with such pretty and enticing photos!
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I so agree with Christine. Love being a west coaster for how easy it is to get to Australia. I can’t even imagine how the rest of the country deals with it. Now Europe, that is where I want to kill myself after I get there. And even with the weather/holidays and laidbackness, I always said, both Australia and New Zealand remind me of what California was probably like in the 50′s and 60′s. So while I did love Australia, for those that can’t afford it (time or money-wise), just come to California! Pretty much, kind of, sort of the same thing:-). A big reason on why I ended up coming home.
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Hey there! Followed a link from Twitter. I’ve lived in Australia (Sydney and Darwin) for over 8 years now and I completely agree with all of this. Great post. I’ll be sharing it. (feel free to check out my site as well..)
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Oh, you do the Yanks Down Under site?! I have definitely come across that one before. Cool — glad you could relate.
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Nicely stitched Kangaroo. If only we all had an easy life like him :)
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If only is right, Tony!
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Great post. I just returned to the US last year after 6 years living in Tokyo. I was working and paying taxes over there, so I thought I was fine not filing in the US… not the case. I did a bunch of searching and finally found this company in LA that specifically handles expat taxes: http://www.expatcpa.com/ I had to file 4 years at once, so they gave me a discount, but it was still pricy. Note to all expats, you still need to file in the US, even if you do not make any money here. Christmas in San Diego is in “winter”, but still mostly sunny and warm… you’re not missing much here at least.
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Simon Says
Well Happy Australia Day to you too! Wow. What an opportunity you have and what a lame attitude you have towards it. You know what – there are loads of people who would love an opportunity to live in Australia for a period, so feel free not to bother coming.
Sadly American culture is infecting our unique Australian culture strongly, so I’m sure you’ll find all your favourite rubbish TV shows available here as well, so you can sit inside all the time escaping the beautiful weather.
And if you don’t want to experience something new then seriously – why are you travelling? Being scared of a new tax system is a ridiculous downside to all the fantastic new things you’ll see and experience, this is probably the reason why so few Americans have passports. You’ve picked one of the easiest countries in the world to be an expat in – you don’t even have to learn a language and the money is still called the same thing! It’s pretty pathetic consider what some of the people who contribute to this blog have done.
And P.S. the cheek kissing is European.
So basically all your points just want to make me tell you to get over yourself!-
Hey Simon, thanks for your comments.
To clarify, Brooke wasn’t criticizing the Australian tax system. If anything, she was criticizing the American system and how you can’t escape it just because you choose to live in another country.
A lot of Americans living abroad, especially the young ones, assume you don’t have to file taxes in the USA if you’re spending the year outside the country. It can be a very costly mistake as the years add up.
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Hi Simon, Thanks for your input. I just want to reiterate the parts of the post that explain that Australia is beautiful and I do love living here.
There is no negativity towards Australia, but as living in any other country does, it does make you miss home at times — to miss your holiday celebrations and the systems you’re accustomed to. There is a misconception that just because you move abroad that your life becomes easy… “But you live in Australia, you’re life is awesome!” Living abroad and traveling are two VERY different things.
The tax portion, as I’m sure you can see by rereading the section, was clearly talking about the need to continue to file US taxes while abroad, which is something most people don’t know about.
And I live in Sydney where cheek-kissing is definitely part of the culture ;)
I guess there’s always the factor of internet tone coming off wrong, which I definitely think is the case here. Sorry to offend you; that wasn’t the goal in the least.
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Proud Australian
How do you think it would go down if I was able to live in the US for three years and on Independence Day or Thanksgiving, or whatever, I made disparaging comments about your tax system and culture! I reckon you lot would be pretty miffed and ready to ship me off home!
It’s a very cultural imperialist position you’re taking. And an incredibly childish and shortsighted view of culture that you have. Lying on the beach is part of Australian culture is it? Like eating massive portions is part of American culture? I think it would be a good idea to try an get an understanding about what culture is and means, and hopefully that will help you get the most out of your travels. I hope you learn a lot during your time in Australia.-
Again, Brooke isn’t criticizing the Aussie tax code, she’s warning American expats that you’ll still have to file taxes in the USA even if you choose to live in Australia (unless you’ve researched your situation and meet specific criteria according to the IRS). The problem is most young expats assume they don’t need to file, and that leaves them open to having to pay back taxes for a year or more.
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Hi, Proud Australian, thanks for reading. I think I give both sides of the situation in my article. I’m sorry that you found this to be negative, but it was not intended so. Please see Dave’s comment above as I was referring to this and not the tax system in Oz.
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I am so lucky to have called both Canada and Australia home. I agree – Christmas without the white stuff is different – took me a couple of years. The distances are far – took me nearly 30 hours to get home to visit my family, but luckily, they were happy to come visit too!!! Didn’t have to make the choice between family and exploring! Australia is such a lucky country – the place is gorgeous and diverse, and the people are cool! I lived there for 7 years – my life must have agreed with me! There was a small culture shock and language barrier – it was more just the accents! Some of the expressions were different – now back in Canada – I use them without even realizing it and people are always saying “huh?” But it was no different than when I first moved to the Coast – I got asked to repeat myself a lot! Glad I can call both Canada and Australia home – looking forward to going back! I still have a lot of family over there!
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Haha, some of the expressions are incredible :) I still find myself discovering new ones after almost 3 years. When you get back this way, give me a shout.
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Hi Brooke, the good news is that it at least it will be sunny when you’re away from home at Christmas! Hopefully that will make it a bit easier. Going the other way as an expat in London it’s a miserable time of year as well… And if you’re around one of the big travelling hubs you’ll find that there are plenty of orphan’s Christmas events on, so you can share your day with other travellers – usually at a sunny beach BBQ or similar – which will hopefully take the edge off for you!
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I totally agree with you – especially about the taxes issue. Not only do we pay more in Australia but having to fill out the double returns is a huge pain. I’ve been a full-time Australian resident since the start of 2006 and a citizen for almost two years now and I still have conflicts over the things you mention. You’d think I’d have gotten over those by now, eh?
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Chris
“dealing with the popular Aussie meet-and-greet of cheek-kissing”
Sorry but it isn’t popular with most Aussies. I would highly recommend travelling outside Sydney. Not only will you personal space be respected but the rest of the country is cheaper.
“Christmas will never feel like Christmas”
That’s funny because having xmas on the beach feels normal to me.



